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Lamy 2000 vs Pilot Custom 823: what real owners say

Real owners rate these about evenly: 67% of 379 Lamy 2000 owners recommend it, vs 72% of 279 for the Pilot Custom 823.

Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score

Lamy 2000

67%of 379 owners recommend
67% recommend · 17% neutral · 16% don't
Owners praise
  • Smooth, wet nib that owners rank among the best writers they own
  • Long-lived for the owners it suits, with eight, ten and fifteen years of use reported
  • Understated Bauhaus design owners choose over flashier pens, including ones that cost more
Owners complain about
  • Tapered brushed-steel section is slippery enough that owners' fingers slide toward the nib, and some could not write with the pen at all
  • Narrow sweet spot on the nib: held off that angle, owners report the line thinning, skipping or stopping outright
  • Nibs run a width or two wider and wetter than marked, so fine and extra-fine buyers often end up with a medium line
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Pilot Custom 823

72%of 279 owners recommend
72% recommend · 20% neutral · 8% don't
Owners praise
  • A nib owners describe over and over as buttery or glass smooth, with almost no tooth
  • Huge ink capacity from the vacuum filler, enough to go a long time between refills
  • Consistent starts for most owners, and a cap seal that holds ink through weeks unused
Owners complain about
  • The Fine runs finer and drier than many owners expected, with noticeable feedback
  • The Medium runs wide and wet, and owners who came from a Fine repeatedly call it too broad for their hand
  • A run of owners got a dry or skipping nib that needed a wetter ink, a feed swap, or a replacement nib
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Which should you buy?

Get the Lamy 2000 if
  • ✓Someone who wants one pen inked and in hand every day instead of a rotation
  • ✓Office notes, meetings and lecture writing, where owners want a pen that vanishes into the background
  • ✓Writers who like a smooth, wet, generous line and medium or broader widths
  • ✓Buyers who want restrained industrial design rather than a pen that draws comment
Skip it if
  • Anyone who needs a true fine or extra-fine line for small handwriting
  • Low grippers, and anyone who holds a pen firmly down near the nib, where the tapered steel section works against them
Get the Pilot Custom 823 if
  • ✓Writers looking for one pen to settle on instead of a growing collection
  • ✓Heavy daily writers who want to refill rarely, for notes, journaling and long work sessions
  • ✓Anyone who prefers a wet, glass-smooth nib over one with tooth
  • ✓Buyers who can try the nib grades in hand before picking one
Skip it if
  • Owners who rotate inks often and do not want a slow flush between them
  • Small, cramped handwriting that the Medium's wider, wetter line would swamp

What Lamy 2000 owners say

“Lamy 2k I got in oblique double broad so I definitely don’t find it dry. I thought it might be too broad for me and considered sending it to a grinder but I’ve been loving it lately.”
— karunamoon on Reddit
“The Lamy 2000 was something I considered a number of times in the past even though I wasn't exactly a fan of the modernist design. That's changed since and I'm very happy with it.”
— draconicpenguin10 on Reddit
“So although my personal opinion is pass, you may actually love this pen.”
— Tarentum566 on Reddit

What Pilot Custom 823 owners say

“823 is perfect if you already found your "main" ink and in my case, the iroshizuku shin-kai because the ink capacity is awesome but cleaning and switching inks can be a hassle.”
— Different-Relation21 on Reddit
“It feels much more substantial in the hand and is nicer to hold, IMO (because of the metal mechanism) and I feel like the nib writes smoother and wetter, which is my preference.”
— tidy-dinosaur323 on Reddit
“I personally didn't love it enough for the price. It's a thick pen, so you have to like something a little girthier in your hand, and I didn't love the vacuum feed, either.”
— Travels4Food on Reddit

Lamy 2000 vs Pilot Custom 823: frequently asked questions

Is the Lamy 2000 or the Pilot Custom 823 better?

Real owners rate these about evenly: 67% of 379 Lamy 2000 owners recommend it, vs 72% of 279 for the Pilot Custom 823.

Who should get the Lamy 2000?

Owners point the Lamy 2000 at someone who wants one pen inked and in hand every day instead of a rotation, and office notes, meetings and lecture writing, where owners want a pen that vanishes into the background.

Who should get the Pilot Custom 823?

Owners point the Pilot Custom 823 at writers looking for one pen to settle on instead of a growing collection, and heavy daily writers who want to refill rarely, for notes, journaling and long work sessions.

What do owners complain about?

The most-cited downside of the Lamy 2000 is tapered brushed-steel section is slippery enough that owners' fingers slide toward the nib, and some could not write with the pen at all. For the Pilot Custom 823, it's the Fine runs finer and drier than many owners expected, with noticeable feedback.