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Pilot Custom 823 vs Pilot Vanishing Point: what real owners say

Real owners rate these about evenly: 72% of 279 Pilot Custom 823 owners recommend it, vs 77% of 275 for the Pilot Vanishing Point.

Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score

Pilot Custom 823

72%of 279 owners recommend
72% recommend · 20% neutral · 8% don't
Owners praise
  • A nib owners describe over and over as buttery or glass smooth, with almost no tooth
  • Huge ink capacity from the vacuum filler, enough to go a long time between refills
  • Consistent starts for most owners, and a cap seal that holds ink through weeks unused
Owners complain about
  • The Fine runs finer and drier than many owners expected, with noticeable feedback
  • The Medium runs wide and wet, and owners who came from a Fine repeatedly call it too broad for their hand
  • A run of owners got a dry or skipping nib that needed a wetter ink, a feed swap, or a replacement nib
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Pilot Vanishing Point

77%of 275 owners recommend
77% recommend · 11% neutral · 12% don't
Owners praise
  • Capless click mechanism: one-handed, always ready to write
  • Buttery-smooth gold nib that's a joy to write with
  • Their most-used daily carry and travel pen
Owners complain about
  • Nib can be scratchy or inconsistently tuned, especially EF
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Which should you buy?

Get the Pilot Custom 823 if
  • ✓Writers looking for one pen to settle on instead of a growing collection
  • ✓Heavy daily writers who want to refill rarely, for notes, journaling and long work sessions
  • ✓Anyone who prefers a wet, glass-smooth nib over one with tooth
  • ✓Buyers who can try the nib grades in hand before picking one
Skip it if
  • Owners who rotate inks often and do not want a slow flush between them
  • Small, cramped handwriting that the Medium's wider, wetter line would swamp
Get the Pilot Vanishing Point if
  • ✓Professionals needing quick, one-handed note-taking at work
  • ✓Daily carry and travel thanks to the retractable nib
  • ✓Heavy writers wanting a smooth gold nib
  • ✓People who dislike capping and posting a pen
Skip it if
  • Anyone whose grip clashes with the clip position
  • Long writing sessions where its weight tires the hand

What Pilot Custom 823 owners say

“823 is perfect if you already found your "main" ink and in my case, the iroshizuku shin-kai because the ink capacity is awesome but cleaning and switching inks can be a hassle.”
— Different-Relation21 on Reddit
“It feels much more substantial in the hand and is nicer to hold, IMO (because of the metal mechanism) and I feel like the nib writes smoother and wetter, which is my preference.”
— tidy-dinosaur323 on Reddit
“I personally didn't love it enough for the price. It's a thick pen, so you have to like something a little girthier in your hand, and I didn't love the vacuum feed, either.”
— Travels4Food on Reddit

What Pilot Vanishing Point owners say

“I cannot recommend it highly enough”
— @kateriewing on YouTube
“My beloved Pilot Vanishing Point, inked with Sailor Sei-boku. Writes smoother and cleaner than anything else I’ve used, the retracting mechanism is impressively effective at preventing the nib from drying out”
— VeryConsciousWater on Reddit
“I have Document Black and whilst it's incredibly well-behaved on pretty much any paper and is a pleasure to write with, it clogged my Pilot Vanishing Point pretty badly and has definitely stained a few pens.”
— Strange_Cod249 on Reddit

Pilot Custom 823 vs Pilot Vanishing Point: frequently asked questions

Is the Pilot Custom 823 or the Pilot Vanishing Point better?

Real owners rate these about evenly: 72% of 279 Pilot Custom 823 owners recommend it, vs 77% of 275 for the Pilot Vanishing Point.

Who should get the Pilot Custom 823?

Owners point the Pilot Custom 823 at writers looking for one pen to settle on instead of a growing collection, and heavy daily writers who want to refill rarely, for notes, journaling and long work sessions.

Who should get the Pilot Vanishing Point?

Owners point the Pilot Vanishing Point at professionals needing quick, one-handed note-taking at work, and daily carry and travel thanks to the retractable nib.

What do owners complain about?

The most-cited downside of the Pilot Custom 823 is the Fine runs finer and drier than many owners expected, with noticeable feedback. For the Pilot Vanishing Point, it's nib can be scratchy or inconsistently tuned, especially EF.