Garmin Forerunner 165

“Can sleep with the 165 or the one up S. The only two things I know of I am missing out on is the lactate threshold estimate HR value over range. And no triathlon race function.”

“The Forerunners are lightweight as a feature. The 165 and 265 don't even have a metal bezel. Like the Coros Pace 1-3 running watches, they are extremely light, too.”

“Turn the touchscreen off then. You've got options, not restrictions. At the same time, a keyboard appears in Garmin Connect so you could use that. Options...”

“This was watch tracks swimming but fyi it doesn't have a dedicated triathlon mode for your race. You'll have to log each event separately during the race.”

“Looks like it is not the music version. I think its nice to have music for running, without carrying a phone - would need the 165 Music for that.”

“The average pace is based on the moving time. Scroll down further and you'll find your actual pace based on the total elapsed time.”

“Mas advisable ko to buy brand new garmin 165 non music for 7-8k. Yung ibang users na kilala ko with garmin 165 music ay di rin nagagamit yung music features ng garmin 165 dahil dala rin nila cellphone nila and mas malakas sa battery yung usage.”

“Non-music version has garmin pay too po. I have one and used it na. Kaso gotyme lang talaga, di pwede seabank”

“So I did a bit more research for you. Seems like 165 only has breadcrumb navigation like pace 4.”

“Pace 4 has better GPS (dual band), 165 does not. Other than that, both will do equally well at the basics you're asking for. Garmin's 165 is missing a few little things that most other (Garmin and Coros) watches have. For example, you can't pair a bike power meter.”

“I believe it does not support a cycling power sensor and doesn’t have the multisport widget.”

“Was thinking the same Apple Watch always seemed to work fine. I’ve moved the Garmin a little farther up my arm to a spot that’s clear and a light grey and seems to work better , last nigh sleep was tracked perfect. Also going to try the epoxy sticker trick I’ve seen people mention.”

“Garmin pay works on the 165 but just with gotyme atm afaik.”

“That's training status. It's telling you if your training is balanced and sufficient to improve. If it says unproductive, you're doing too much of a single thing. You can turn it off if your goal isn't to improve your fitness level and you're really just looking to track activities. Or just don't agree with it.”

“FR165 takes just 40 mins to get fully charged!”

“The 165 can't connect to a power meter either.”