Real owners lean toward the Garmin Forerunner 165: 67% of 147 owners recommend it, vs 26% of 43 for the Apple Watch Series 11.
Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score
“i have it. love it. so comfy and wear it every day. just have to pay attention when you put your watch on”— facemusk on Reddit
“I’ve been charging my watch during my showers, and it has allowed me to track both my daily activity and sleep activity.”— kyrie0401 on Reddit
“Apple Watch needs daily charging so I can’t sleep with it and charge during day time. If you don’t monitor your sleep daily you don’t get a good diagnostic.”— Viplist on Reddit
“This video has made me realise the 165 is for me.”— @CGCGCG91 on YouTube
“ordered a 165 hahah wish I knew sooner!”— @Joseeppph on YouTube
“To remove a feature that was previously there as soon as you release the product, which contains the hardware for the feature is a really bad look.”— @Fernweh_8 on YouTube