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Apple Watch Ultra 3 vs Garmin Forerunner 165: what real owners say

Real owners lean toward the Garmin Forerunner 165: 67% of 147 owners recommend it, vs 45% of 64 for the Apple Watch Ultra 3.

Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score

Apple Watch Ultra 3

45%of 64 owners recommend
45% recommend · 32% neutral · 23% don't
Owners praise
  • Heart rate tracking is consistently praised as accurate and steady, with owners reporting no drop-outs and comparing it favorably to Garmin's Epix and Fenix line
  • Deep Apple ecosystem integration (iPhone, Mac) is a major draw that owners say has no real comparison among rivals
  • Battery life is solid for daily wear and gets owners through 4+ hour runs and full training days
Owners complain about
  • A recurring subset of owners end up switching to or preferring Garmin (Fenix 8, Enduro 3, Tactix 7) for serious training and fitness tracking, citing better dedicated sports features
  • Some owners report the heart rate sensor drops out during runs or lacks detailed data compared to Garmin, pushing them to pair a chest strap
  • Battery life is seen as a weak point next to Garmin, with owners noting it needs daily charging and calling it 'trash' compared to multi-day Garmin batteries
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Garmin Forerunner 165

67%of 147 owners recommend
67% recommend · 8% neutral · 25% don't
Owners praise
  • Excellent battery life for the price, often lasting close to a week (or ~12 days per some owners) and far outlasting Apple Watch/Samsung comparisons
  • Strong value for money, praised repeatedly as the 'budget'/entry-level Garmin that delivers most of the higher-tier features at a much lower price
  • Light and comfortable on the wrist, especially compared to bulkier models like the 255/265 or Apple Watch Ultra
Owners complain about
  • Firmware updates (notably the 27.09/27.10 releases) introduced real bugs, GPS drifting off track, heart rate stuck or inaccurate, steps not counting, freezing during activities, and unusual battery drain
  • Missing higher-end features owners wanted, especially power meter support, triathlon mode, and dual-band GPS/offline maps, pushing some to return it for the 265 or a Coros Pace
  • Menus, the on-screen keyboard, and overall navigation feel complicated or unresponsive for a 'basic' entry watch
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Which should you buy?

Get the Apple Watch Ultra 3 if
  • ✓Apple ecosystem users who want a smartwatch first, fitness tracker second
  • ✓Runners and swimmers satisfied with solid (not Garmin-grade) HR and GPS accuracy
  • ✓Daily/all-day wearers who value sleep tracking and battery good enough for a full day plus workouts
  • ✓Athletes who pair a chest strap for serious interval training but want AW polish otherwise
Skip it if
  • Serious multi-day endurance athletes needing Garmin-level battery life and raw sports data
  • Runners chasing max HR precision during intervals without a chest strap
Get the Garmin Forerunner 165 if
  • ✓Beginner or casual runners who just want accurate basics without complexity
  • ✓Buyers upgrading from a Forerunner 55 or basic Apple Watch on a budget
  • ✓Runners who value long battery life and a light, comfortable wrist feel
  • ✓People who mainly run/hike in open areas and don't need multisport or power meters
Skip it if
  • Triathletes or cyclists needing power meter support, multisport mode, or dual-band GPS
  • Runners training under tree canopy or in dense urban areas needing stronger GPS accuracy

What Apple Watch Ultra 3 owners say

“I love my AWU1, but please make a round one!”
— samwcook21 on Reddit
“I have ultra 3 sleep with isuses very nice best”
— WeekendTall7500 on Reddit
“This has convinced me that I probably need a garmin. I take my Ultra 3 off after training and I hate smart watch features.”
— Few-Introduction5414 on Reddit

What Garmin Forerunner 165 owners say

“This video has made me realise the 165 is for me.”
— @CGCGCG91 on YouTube
“ordered a 165 hahah wish I knew sooner!”
— @Joseeppph on YouTube
“To remove a feature that was previously there as soon as you release the product, which contains the hardware for the feature is a really bad look.”
— @Fernweh_8 on YouTube

Apple Watch Ultra 3 vs Garmin Forerunner 165: frequently asked questions

Is the Apple Watch Ultra 3 or the Garmin Forerunner 165 better?

Real owners lean toward the Garmin Forerunner 165: 67% of 147 owners recommend it, vs 45% of 64 for the Apple Watch Ultra 3.

Who should get the Apple Watch Ultra 3?

Owners point the Apple Watch Ultra 3 at apple ecosystem users who want a smartwatch first, fitness tracker second, and runners and swimmers satisfied with solid (not Garmin-grade) HR and GPS accuracy.

Who should get the Garmin Forerunner 165?

Owners point the Garmin Forerunner 165 at beginner or casual runners who just want accurate basics without complexity, and buyers upgrading from a Forerunner 55 or basic Apple Watch on a budget.

What do owners complain about?

The most-cited downside of the Apple Watch Ultra 3 is a recurring subset of owners end up switching to or preferring Garmin (Fenix 8, Enduro 3, Tactix 7) for serious training and fitness tracking, citing better dedicated sports features. For the Garmin Forerunner 165, it's firmware updates (notably the 27.09/27.10 releases) introduced real bugs, GPS drifting off track, heart rate stuck or inaccurate, steps not counting, freezing during activities, and unusual battery drain.