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Garmin Forerunner 165 vs Google Pixel Watch 4: what real owners say

Real owners lean toward the Garmin Forerunner 165: 67% of 147 owners recommend it, vs 43% of 68 for the Google Pixel Watch 4.

Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score

Garmin Forerunner 165

67%of 147 owners recommend
67% recommend · 8% neutral · 25% don't
Owners praise
  • Excellent battery life for the price, often lasting close to a week (or ~12 days per some owners) and far outlasting Apple Watch/Samsung comparisons
  • Strong value for money, praised repeatedly as the 'budget'/entry-level Garmin that delivers most of the higher-tier features at a much lower price
  • Light and comfortable on the wrist, especially compared to bulkier models like the 255/265 or Apple Watch Ultra
Owners complain about
  • Firmware updates (notably the 27.09/27.10 releases) introduced real bugs, GPS drifting off track, heart rate stuck or inaccurate, steps not counting, freezing during activities, and unusual battery drain
  • Missing higher-end features owners wanted, especially power meter support, triathlon mode, and dual-band GPS/offline maps, pushing some to return it for the 265 or a Coros Pace
  • Menus, the on-screen keyboard, and overall navigation feel complicated or unresponsive for a 'basic' entry watch
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Google Pixel Watch 4

43%of 68 owners recommend
43% recommend · 17% neutral · 40% don't
Owners praise
  • Owners upgrading from the Pixel Watch 2/3 (or switching from OnePlus, Amazfit, or Samsung) say the PW4 is a clear step up and are glad they made the switch
  • Clean, elegant watch face and UI design is a standout, with several owners calling it their favorite-looking smartwatch they've owned
  • Battery life is strong for many owners, with reports of 82% remaining after a day and stretches of 2.5 days between charges
Owners complain about
  • Glass and overall durability are a recurring worry, no sapphire glass, easily scratched Gorilla Glass, cracked/broken screens, and a quoted $175 lens repair that's nearly half the watch's price
  • Battery life still lags rivals like Garmin, with some owners reporting only 30-40 hours (vs. a week on Garmin) and calling it the main reason they gave up on the Pixel Watch
  • No wireless charging, and the included charger/charging setup is described as awkward or a source of complaints
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Which should you buy?

Get the Garmin Forerunner 165 if
  • ✓Beginner or casual runners who just want accurate basics without complexity
  • ✓Buyers upgrading from a Forerunner 55 or basic Apple Watch on a budget
  • ✓Runners who value long battery life and a light, comfortable wrist feel
  • ✓People who mainly run/hike in open areas and don't need multisport or power meters
Skip it if
  • Triathletes or cyclists needing power meter support, multisport mode, or dual-band GPS
  • Runners training under tree canopy or in dense urban areas needing stronger GPS accuracy
Get the Google Pixel Watch 4 if
  • ✓Pixel phone owners who want tap-to-pay, notifications, and Google Home integration on the wrist
  • ✓PW2/PW3 upgraders after bigger display, faster charging, and user-replaceable battery
  • ✓Casual fitness trackers fine with 1-2 day battery who value watch faces and clean UI
  • ✓Hikers/backcountry users wanting satellite SOS as an emergency backup to a phone
Skip it if
  • Serious athletes/Garmin switchers needing multi-day battery and rigorous health tracking
  • Anyone wanting wireless charging or scratch-resistant sapphire glass

What Garmin Forerunner 165 owners say

“This video has made me realise the 165 is for me.”
— @CGCGCG91 on YouTube
“ordered a 165 hahah wish I knew sooner!”
— @Joseeppph on YouTube
“To remove a feature that was previously there as soon as you release the product, which contains the hardware for the feature is a really bad look.”
— @Fernweh_8 on YouTube

What Google Pixel Watch 4 owners say

“they upgraded everything there is to upgrade really. Bigger, brighter display with slimmer bezzels, faster more efficient processor, bigger user replaceable battery, stronger haptics, faster charging, improved sensors, dual gps.”
— VendettaxRiich on Reddit
“It’s super convenient, I keep my watch under my coat sleeve, I don’t even roll it up, I just hold the watch close to the reader and it works automatically.”
— lemikeone on Reddit
“no upgrades for me”
— Darkpoet67 on Reddit

Garmin Forerunner 165 vs Google Pixel Watch 4: frequently asked questions

Is the Garmin Forerunner 165 or the Google Pixel Watch 4 better?

Real owners lean toward the Garmin Forerunner 165: 67% of 147 owners recommend it, vs 43% of 68 for the Google Pixel Watch 4.

Who should get the Garmin Forerunner 165?

Owners point the Garmin Forerunner 165 at beginner or casual runners who just want accurate basics without complexity, and buyers upgrading from a Forerunner 55 or basic Apple Watch on a budget.

Who should get the Google Pixel Watch 4?

Owners point the Google Pixel Watch 4 at pixel phone owners who want tap-to-pay, notifications, and Google Home integration on the wrist, and pW2/PW3 upgraders after bigger display, faster charging, and user-replaceable battery.

What do owners complain about?

The most-cited downside of the Garmin Forerunner 165 is firmware updates (notably the 27.09/27.10 releases) introduced real bugs, GPS drifting off track, heart rate stuck or inaccurate, steps not counting, freezing during activities, and unusual battery drain. For the Google Pixel Watch 4, it's glass and overall durability are a recurring worry, no sapphire glass, easily scratched Gorilla Glass, cracked/broken screens, and a quoted $175 lens repair that's nearly half the watch's price.