Real owners rate these about evenly: 72% of 279 Pilot Custom 823 owners recommend it, vs 77% of 394 for the TWSBI Diamond 580.
Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score
“823 is perfect if you already found your "main" ink and in my case, the iroshizuku shin-kai because the ink capacity is awesome but cleaning and switching inks can be a hassle.”— Different-Relation21 on Reddit
“It feels much more substantial in the hand and is nicer to hold, IMO (because of the metal mechanism) and I feel like the nib writes smoother and wetter, which is my preference.”— tidy-dinosaur323 on Reddit
“I personally didn't love it enough for the price. It's a thick pen, so you have to like something a little girthier in your hand, and I didn't love the vacuum feed, either.”— Travels4Food on Reddit
“TWSBI is the only pen I own that you can set aside for months, pick up and use without issues. They are airtight beyond imagination.”— @Erin-Thor on YouTube
“I love them both.”— @ShariArts on YouTube
“I vastly prefer my ECO to the 580. I ended up selling the latter, it just didn't feel or write as well, but the ECO just feels right and doesn't lose anything if you ask me!”— @markdryden8240 on YouTube
Real owners rate these about evenly: 72% of 279 Pilot Custom 823 owners recommend it, vs 77% of 394 for the TWSBI Diamond 580.
Owners point the Pilot Custom 823 at writers looking for one pen to settle on instead of a growing collection, and heavy daily writers who want to refill rarely, for notes, journaling and long work sessions.
Owners point the TWSBI Diamond 580 at writers wanting large ink capacity via piston filling, and fans of demonstrator pens who like seeing the ink.
The most-cited downside of the Pilot Custom 823 is the Fine runs finer and drier than many owners expected, with noticeable feedback. For the TWSBI Diamond 580, it's nib dries out and skips during long writing.