Real owners lean toward the DF64 Gen 2: 73% of 298 owners recommend it, vs 55% of 388 for the Baratza Virtuoso+.
Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score
“I've had my Baratza Virtuoso for over 10 years.”— rmblr on Reddit
“I freshly grind the beans to number 38 on my Baratza Virtuoso+, and 24 hours later I have a very smooth, low-acid, no-additives, no off-taste cold brew concentrate”— MarcTes on Reddit
“I was using a good grinder (Baratza Virtuoso).”— randomroyalty on Reddit
“Industrial vibes AND getting the kids out of bed are two major advantages in my opinion”— @somborn on YouTube
“the industrial look is actually one of the attractive features of this grinder for me.”— @ClaudioMartella on YouTube
“My white DF64 gen 2 is going back. I get the same flavor as my Breville Barista Touch.”— @arielrodriguez6980 on YouTube
Real owners lean toward the DF64 Gen 2: 73% of 298 owners recommend it, vs 55% of 388 for the Baratza Virtuoso+.
Owners point the Baratza Virtuoso+ at pour-over, French press, drip, and cold brew drinkers, and buyers who value repairability and long-term durability.
Owners point the DF64 Gen 2 at budget-minded espresso drinkers wanting flat-burr flavor, and tinkerers who want to swap and upgrade 64mm burrs.
The most-cited downside of the Baratza Virtuoso+ is can't grind fine enough for espresso. For the DF64 Gen 2, it's loud, shrill grinding noise.