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Baratza Virtuoso+ vs DF64 Gen 2: what real owners say

Real owners lean toward the DF64 Gen 2: 73% of 298 owners recommend it, vs 55% of 388 for the Baratza Virtuoso+.

Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score

Baratza Virtuoso+

55%of 388 owners recommend
55% recommend · 18% neutral · 27% don't
Owners praise
  • Durable workhorse, lasts many years
  • Repairable with parts and great support
  • Consistent for pour over and French press
Owners complain about
  • Can't grind fine enough for espresso
  • Stepped settings too coarse to dial in
  • Produces fines, uneven grind
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DF64 Gen 2

73%of 298 owners recommend
73% recommend · 10% neutral · 17% don't
Owners praise
  • Excellent flavor and grind quality
  • Outstanding value for the price
  • Swappable 64mm burrs for upgrades
Owners complain about
  • Loud, shrill grinding noise
  • Inconsistency, wandering touch point
  • Clogging, static, and mess
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Which should you buy?

Get the Baratza Virtuoso+ if
  • Pour-over, French press, drip, and cold brew drinkers
  • Buyers who value repairability and long-term durability
  • People upgrading from a blade or cheap grinder
  • Households wanting simple one-button timed grinding
Skip it if
  • Espresso enthusiasts needing fine, stepless adjustment
  • Anyone sensitive to grinder noise
Get the DF64 Gen 2 if
  • Budget-minded espresso drinkers wanting flat-burr flavor
  • Tinkerers who want to swap and upgrade 64mm burrs
  • Single-dose users upgrading from a built-in or entry grinder
Skip it if
  • Buyers who want quiet operation
  • Those wanting consistency without regular cleaning and tinkering

What Baratza Virtuoso+ owners say

I've had my Baratza Virtuoso for over 10 years.
rmblr on Reddit
I freshly grind the beans to number 38 on my Baratza Virtuoso+, and 24 hours later I have a very smooth, low-acid, no-additives, no off-taste cold brew concentrate
MarcTes on Reddit
I was using a good grinder (Baratza Virtuoso).
randomroyalty on Reddit

What DF64 Gen 2 owners say

Industrial vibes AND getting the kids out of bed are two major advantages in my opinion
@somborn on YouTube
the industrial look is actually one of the attractive features of this grinder for me.
@ClaudioMartella on YouTube
My white DF64 gen 2 is going back. I get the same flavor as my Breville Barista Touch.
@arielrodriguez6980 on YouTube

Baratza Virtuoso+ vs DF64 Gen 2: frequently asked questions

Is the Baratza Virtuoso+ or the DF64 Gen 2 better?

Real owners lean toward the DF64 Gen 2: 73% of 298 owners recommend it, vs 55% of 388 for the Baratza Virtuoso+.

Who should get the Baratza Virtuoso+?

Owners point the Baratza Virtuoso+ at pour-over, French press, drip, and cold brew drinkers, and buyers who value repairability and long-term durability.

Who should get the DF64 Gen 2?

Owners point the DF64 Gen 2 at budget-minded espresso drinkers wanting flat-burr flavor, and tinkerers who want to swap and upgrade 64mm burrs.

What do owners complain about?

The most-cited downside of the Baratza Virtuoso+ is can't grind fine enough for espresso. For the DF64 Gen 2, it's loud, shrill grinding noise.