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DF64 Gen 2

DF64 Gen 2

Scored on 298 verified owner verdicts, from 2,146 comments read across 4 communities
TL;DR
Owners love the DF64 Gen 2's flavor and value as a swappable 64mm flat-burr grinder, but many are frustrated by its loud noise, wandering consistency, and finicky build.

73% of 298 verified owners recommend the DF64 Gen 2, based on real owner verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube.

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What 298 owners say
2,146 comments reviewed · scored on the 298 clearest verdicts
73%
Recommend
217 owners
10%
Neutral
30 owners
17%
Don't recommend
51 owners
Last 6 months:48% recommend(27 recent verdicts)↓ trending down 28pts vs older reviews
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Reddit
73%
295
Other forums
67%
3
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YouTubeiowner comments
81%
32
Affiliate blogsipaid commission
100%
2
No clear verdictiSetup, tips & quirks
26

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The headline score reflects owners (Reddit, enthusiast forums), independent lab tests, blogs with no affiliate links, and YouTube owner-comments when they line up with owners. YouTube and Affiliate blogs are shown for perspective but kept out here — hover the i for why.

What owners like
  • Excellent flavor and grind quality · 120 · 40%
  • Outstanding value for the price · 110 · 37%
  • Swappable 64mm burrs for upgrades · 45 · 15%
  • Low retention for many owners · 40 · 13%
  • Solid, well-built feel · 35 · 12%
What owners flag
  • Loud, shrill grinding noise · 55 · 18%
  • Inconsistency, wandering touch point · 55 · 18%
  • Clogging, static, and mess · 50 · 17%
  • Poorly engineered upper burr mechanism · 40 · 13%
  • Fragile power button · 30 · 10%
Who it's for
A great fit if
  • Budget-minded espresso drinkers wanting flat-burr flavor
  • Tinkerers who want to swap and upgrade 64mm burrs
  • Single-dose users upgrading from a built-in or entry grinder
Look elsewhere if
  • Buyers who want quiet operation
  • Those wanting consistency without regular cleaning and tinkering
  • People switching often between filter and espresso grinds

Synthesized from what DF64 Gen 2 owners say — not a spec sheet.

How buyers rate it elsewhere

Retailers' own star averages, for comparison — separate from our vetted owner-verdict score above.

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YouTube▲ recommend

Industrial vibes AND getting the kids out of bed are two major advantages in my opinion

YouTube▼ don’t recommend

My white DF64 gen 2 is going back. I get the same flavor as my Breville Barista Touch.

Reddit— neutral

The DF is fine for a $300 grinder. It's not as well-designed, reliable, or easy to use as the Orbit. People saying it's all burr geometry ignore the fact that consistent results require consistent RPMs, alignment, and a well-designed grind path. The DF struggles with those 3, IME.

Reddit— neutral

The DF64 Gen 2 came with a "portafilter holder" attachment which I found terrible. Not only did it not fit the normcore bottomless portafilter but it was way too close to the opening.

YouTube▲ recommend

the industrial look is actually one of the attractive features of this grinder for me.

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

I bought a DF64 Gen 2 because of all the hype, and as soon as it arrived I recognized all the hallmarks of cheap Chinese "chabuduo" engineering. The burrs and grind quality are great but the grinder is really poorly built, and I got rid of it faster than any other piece of coffee equipment I've ever purchased.

YouTube▲ recommend

For anyone watching, the gen2 takes care of most of the issues he has with it.

Reddit— neutral

Df64 gen 2 isn't the best quality. Work flow might be slightly better but retention is there. For the price its a great grinder.

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

Gen 2 is definitely better than Gen 1. It still clogs , clumps. And has static issues.  It doesn't matter that it's generation 2. It still has the same issues as generation 1.

YouTube— neutral

I have this grinder. You can definitely get upto 0.5g retention with some bean varieties.

YouTube▲ recommend

2 years later it seems like Turin just changed pretty much EVERYTHING you mentioned in the Gen 2

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

I just had to return a df64 gen 2 with horrible qc issues. They charged me $22 shipping and a 15% restocking fee even though it was so out of alignment. It was also clogging non stop.

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

I have the DF64 gen 2 with SSP MP for espresso and it is terrible sound wise. I have sensible ears, but I need to have earplugs every time I start grinding with the DF64, shrieeeking sound.

YouTube▲ recommend

the DF64 Gen 2 addresses pretty much everything in this video and some

Reddit— neutral

the DF64 I have access to uses SSP HU burrs - this produces a product that in my experience is indistinguishable from NZ. It’s the burr making the difference, not the grinder

YouTube▲ recommend

The Industrial look is good for me - I'm an engineer so works well. This is my first 'proper' grinder so looking forward to the next set of rabbit holes to head down!

Reddit— neutral

I just got the DF64 Gen 2 from Kitchen Barista for $320 with shipping. It may not be perfect but for that price it may be worth it even if it's just as you wait for a zerno.

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

I used to have this problem (with df64 gen 2) until I got a ZP6. I grind a LOT finer than I was with the DF64 but getting really sweet cups that aren't astringent at all.

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

I got DF64 Gen 2 for my friend from Singapore and I broke my luggage because it was too heavy. REAL STORY. And he faced issue with the grinder but now there is no way to return, exchange of service it.

YouTube▲ recommend

Everything James outlines here is still valid, even though it was shot more than a year ago

Reddit— neutral

I own a ode Gen 2 and df64 Gen 2 so I would say while they are not high end they are on the nicer side of grinders but I always end up with unbalanced, slightly bitter cups when I push the grindsize.

Reddit— neutral

The DF64 Gen2 is great, but it’s still messy. It’s a good grinder that’s quite consistent and I love single dosing but you can already do that with the Breville.

Reddit▼ don’t recommend

I’ve had no luck whatsoever with dialing in the DF64 gen 2 for filter. I always use the same recipe where brew times are around 3:00, 3:30. 30 grams of coffee with 500 grams of water making it a double cup.

YouTube▲ recommend

I have the same one, in white, for about 4 weeks now, and I love it.

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Common problems & things to know

Practical notes owners raise — setup, quirks, and issues to watch for. They don't say whether the person likes the product, so they're not counted in the score, but they inform the pros, cons, and who it's for.

Redditⓘ good to know

I have a DF64 gen 2 grinder. Previously I was using dark roast beans but they were a bag of lavazza I got online, so definitely not the freshest.

Redditⓘ good to know

I have a DF64 Gen 2 with SSP cast sweet lab v2 burrs. I started off around 70 when the grinder was new, but I’ve had to gradually lower the setting as the burrs have seasoned.

Redditⓘ good to know

I got my new DF64 Gen 2 three days ago and have been seasoning it with close to 2kg now, the buildup you are mentioning is from the popcoring happening as the beans are hitting the spinning burrs.

Redditⓘ good to know

I am arguably grinding too fine on df64 gen 2 which may be why I'm not helping the Ethiopian beans and their fines with the clogging, however the brew tastes good

Redditⓘ good to know

I did this often, too, with DF64 Gen 2. It was fine after purging with a gram or two, but now that I've dedicated that grinder to espresso only, it's more consistent, and the workflow is much better.

Redditⓘ good to know

I got a DF64 Gen 2 and I'm so worried about the burr alignment... I looked up online and it seems like an absolute pain in the ass to align it I'm just going to grind and pray it's aligned correctly....

Redditⓘ good to know

I have a batista pro and upgraded my grinder to the df64 gen 2 as well. I bought an 18-22g ims basket and bottomless portafilter for it.

Redditⓘ good to know

Only recently I have "upgraded" to a bottomless portafilter, IMS basket, df64 gen 2 grinder. I never realized coffee could taste so bad.

Redditⓘ good to know

on my DF64 Gen 2 the stock DLC burrs were great out of the box without seasoning and got even better over time. The 64mm SSP Lab Sweet v3 burrs on the same grinder were completely unusable without tons and tons of seasoning.

Redditⓘ good to know

got a DF64 Gen 2 and while im using the stock burrs right now im looking forward to trying some of the other burr options.

Redditⓘ good to know

I made the upgrade from DF64 Gen 2 to Philos. I did detect some improvement on espresso. But it was very marginal. I think there's a lot of variability in how well aligned the DF64 comes out of the factory, and I suspect mine was relatively well aligned

Redditⓘ good to know

I literally spent 5 hours too and just finished aligning my df64 gen 2, I also didn't achieve perfection

Redditⓘ good to know

Tried it in my DF64 Gen 2 and it ran so fast I had 17 grams in 40 grams out in 12 seconds.

Redditⓘ good to know

I ended up getting the gen 2, and don’t personally miss the option to change the speed.

Redditⓘ good to know

bought from miicoffee, shipping was fast and they offer an extended warranty on their website. grinder came in perfect condition, had no need to contact customer support so far. burrs weren't aligned as best as they could be from miicoffee but I didn't expect them to align the burrs anyways

Redditⓘ good to know

I couldn't do any better than the factory alignment with my gen 2.

Redditⓘ good to know

the DF64 gen 2 was pretty loud too

Redditⓘ good to know

now make 2 espresso ls a day (medium to light roast) there is zero accumulation and it’s been smooth sailing

Redditⓘ good to know

I thought I was sold a defective piece because the shot consistency was just here and there

Redditⓘ good to know

Low quality dark roasts clog mine up too. Never an issue with higher quality beans

Redditⓘ good to know

Probe at tip - much less static in catch cup but more in chute

Redditⓘ good to know

I had the same problem and bought a metal declumper upgrade

Redditⓘ good to know

I’ve been using a DF64 Gen 2 since the beginning of October

Redditⓘ good to know

I never looked back after removing the declumper

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