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Brooks Ghost 17 vs Saucony Endorphin Speed 4: what real owners say

Real owners lean toward the Brooks Ghost 17: 82% of 11 owners recommend it, vs 75% of 134 for the Saucony Endorphin Speed 4.

Verdicts aggregated from Reddit, enthusiast forums, and YouTube owner comments — affiliate reviews excluded. Sample sizes differ; judge accordingly. How we score

Brooks Ghost 17

82%of 11 owners recommend
82% recommend · 0% neutral · 18% don't
Owners praise
  • A dependable, comfortable daily trainer that owners reach for on the majority of their runs
  • Plenty of cushioning with a higher stack, often described as crazy soft and easy on the feet
  • Handles long runs and half marathons reliably, holding up over a few hundred miles
Owners complain about
  • Runs a bit heavy, so owners suggest a faster shoe for racing or speed sessions
  • The redesign feels like a different shoe to some longtime Ghost wearers
  • Toe box can feel narrow, which was a dealbreaker for a couple of owners
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Saucony Endorphin Speed 4

75%of 134 owners recommend
75% recommend · 6% neutral · 19% don't
Owners praise
  • Versatile do-it-all daily and tempo shoe
  • Great for uptempo, tempo and race-pace runs
  • Nice bounce, pop and protective cushioning
Owners complain about
  • Narrow, pointy toebox cramps and rubs the pinky toe
  • Firm, dead-feeling midsole with little bounce
  • Toe numbness or circulation issues mid-run
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What Brooks Ghost 17 owners say

these shoes are IT
@Justin.501 on YouTube
Not a shoe to go fast but a fantastic daily trainer.
@Philllin on YouTube
Its like running with a stiff truck tire for a midsole. Its dead, heavy and depressing
@albertteng1191 on YouTube

What Saucony Endorphin Speed 4 owners say

Endo Speed 4 being great
@dhgpan on YouTube
i love them so much i decided to run the marathon i was preparing with
@jeremybmxfr on YouTube
Speed 4 is by far my least favourite version. I loved version 1-3 but this one just doesn't feel right on my foot.
@nickskier1 on YouTube